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How to Speak Exec, Choose Tools, and Stay Sane
Rolling up the CS podcasts of the week for you - in 5 minutes or more.

Rolling up the CS podcasts and LinkedIn posts of the week for you - in 5 minutes or more.
Containing:
TL;DR: three quick wins
The Podcasts: summaries + links from this week's podcasts
ICYMI on LI: curated LinkedIn posts from the week
And Now: meme of the week
TL;DR
three quick wins
How to decide on a new CS tool (like really, step-by-step how) from Kateryna Babenko
How to get execs to pay attention to customer metrics: Minute 6:00 of Unf*cking Your CX
Minute 16:26 of Live Chat with Jen: the Sweet Potato Incident and making your unknown known.
"Translating customer friction into the P&L [profit and loss]—that was advocating for my customer. That’s what got the executives to pay attention."
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The Podcasts
summaries + links to choice clips from this week's podcasts
Live Chat with Jen with Jen Weaver and Craig Stoss
All my guests are great, but this may be one of my favorite episodes. It's accessible and at the same time hard-hitting for support leaders. Craig is a gem!
Minute 10:13 - helped me understand AI a little better: "Bs and 3s."
Minute 12:57 - why CSAT doesn't represent your average customer
Minute 16:26 - the Sweet Potato Incident and making your unknown known
Unf*cking Your CX with Zack Hamilton
This episode is a great pep talk for you if you're feeling challenged with managing up and connecting your team's work with the company's north star metrics.
Minute 4:53: CX must serve the business first.
"Nobody else in the org questions if their job is to serve the company. But for some reason in CX, we forget that. If you're not creating value for the business, you're already losing."
Minute 6:00: Translate CX into P&L language.
"Translating customer friction into the P&L—that was advocating for my customer. That’s what got the executives to pay attention."
Table Service Podcast with Jordan Hooker & Ana-Alicia Siqueiros
Minute 26:23, when she compares BPOs with implementing AI. I do wish she'd dug deeper in this episode into BPO vs AI and when to choose one over the other.
"... outsourcing isn't simply about adding more headcount or blending teams—it's all about aligning them. And with AI, there's no need to rush it. It will be there, and you can improve it over time. It doesn't need to be perfect on day one—you just need to be intentional about it. I would also define what success looks like, establish clear boundaries across teams, and make sure both sides have the tools to succeed. Because ultimately, that's what makes scaling sustainable—whether it's with a BPO or with AI."
Modern Customer Podcast with Blake Morgan
"5 Customer Experience Trends Every Leader Needs to Act On Now"
My pick is minute 2:36: “Trust is the new currency.” My gut says this is where AI is pushing us: authentic, trust-building experience will become the new bar.
“In uncertain economic times, customers … are increasingly aware of—and skeptical about—how their data is being used. That’s why companies that lead with transparency and ethical AI design will come out ahead, period. This includes being upfront with customers about when they’re interacting with AI and ensuring there’s always a clear path to a human when needed.”
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PunkCX with Adrian Swinscoe and Jochem van der Veer
If you feel like your leaders aren't listening, you're not alone. Most leaders say 'data-driven.' Few actually are. Scroll to minute 7:48:
"About 41% of leaders rarely involve other departments in data-driven decisions… over 60% of CEOs say they lean into customer feedback… and yet only 15% actually admit to having spoken to customers recently."
ICYMI on LI:
curated LinkedIn posts from the week
How to decide on a new CS tool (like really, step-by-step how) from Kateryna Babenko
How Kenji Hayward built a phenomenal support team.
Companies are changing their minds about laying off support teams. - Luke Jamieson
"62% [of companies] allocate 10% or less of their CX budget to AI." - Adrian Swinscoe
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And now...
See you next time,
Jen